Subject saddle adjustment,weird but works well. Date Mon Apr 26 2004 18:00 Author leo (lspud1@juno.co)

This is for guys only. A sure fire way to get the perfect saddle tilt adjustment. Put on your baggiest, softest old shorts you have,not cycling shorts. No underware.Get on your bike, ride around the block. Try riding in the drops. If it doesnt feel right(hurts!) start adjusting the nose of the saddle down. When it stops hurting,stop adjusting(duh). When you are in cycling shorts they support you. Now with the saddle set in a non-pain position to start with the comfort level goes way up in cycling shorts. I had a Italian book about cycle training that had that this in it on setting up the bike. Sounds a little weird but really works well. gears to you.

	Subject Other Date Tue Oct 30 2007 13:30 Author Sally Kraus (ccc.skraus1938@friendly-email.com)
i liked your site

	Subject crash , theft report site Date Sat May 23 2009 21:33 Author leo (lspud@comcast.net)
http://www.bikewise.org/ might be useful

Subject Distant event carpooling Date Sun May 24 2009 14:09 Author john hagenbrock (soulbluefingers@yahoo.com)

Hello everyone, My name is John and I recently moved to the area. I have started getting back into cycling after a couple unintended hiatuses and was wondering if anyone was planning on or would like to carpool to a couple events this summer. Flying Wheels Century June 13th, Possible Tour de Blast June 20th, STP (reserved Sat morning parking spot only, 2 day ride with night in Portland), and maybe another ride in late August. I have a car with car rack that has 3 slots and a van with a roof rack. My email is a good place to contact me. Have a safe ride everyone. John H.

Subject horses and bicyles Date Wed Jun 10 2009 14:36 Author stephanie (cassyopia@yahoo.com)

Is there some way back country horsemen olympic chapter and your membership could get together and both of us get educated on how to keep horse calm around bicycles. Because I think with your help and co operation we can all get along on trails and road ways. I know the bch chapter I belong to is commited to keep trails open to mt. bikes as well as hikers and motorized. but we need to come together instead of accusing each other of things.

Subject Regarding Horse & Bike Co-existence Date Sun Apr 11 2010 11:13 Author Michael (Perry)

Was there any further discussion or follow-up on this? I'm at a point where I'd like to hear and participate in some reasoned discussions, because I'm frankly out of patience with horses and their riders at both Banner & Stottlemeyer. I'm one of those citizens who used to dismount, move to the side of the trail and speak to the horses in soft soothing tones to keep everyone calm. But no more. I see no such reciprocal show of courtesy or stewardship from the horse riders for the trails, and I have yet to see any horse riders exhibit the same concern for the trails by cleaning up after their horses per county regulations. Yes, let's get together and talk. Not just about what I as a cyclist can do to keep your horses calm, but also what horse riders can do to minimize the damage and mess you create.

Subject Things I learned today Date Sun Jun 21 2009 20:22 Author Henry Hargrove (henry.hargrove@gmail.com)

I rode a loop from Illahee, to Gorst, to Seabeck, to Silverdale and back. For people who've never done it, some things to think about. 1) There is a back way from PSNS to Gorst. I think I took 1st ave up a big hill, L Marion, R Arsenal, L Loxie Eagens, L Union, turns into 3rd, R Kent, R Sherman Heights, to Gorst. 2) There are a LOT of rollers. 3) There are about 3 big hills: Bear Creek Dewatto Rd,Dewatto Rd, and Anderson Hill. The massive rain and 2 hail storms didn't help either. :)

Subject bumming ride Date Sat Jun 27 2009 21:30 Author john hagenbrock (soulbluefingers@yahoo.com)

well, today was my first experience commuting to and in Seattle and I can say that I am not worried to much if I have to bike from Bainbridge to the UW district. That is not too much extra mileage. I have to thank Dave S. and his wife Nancy of Kingston who I just happened to meet on the ferry this morning for providing the info I needed when I needed it. Just park somewhere on BI like I did such as a park ride lot, pedal on down to the 1st ferry which leaves at 520 am arrives in Seattle at 0555 and than add 30 minutes for biking to UW (course opens for 2 day riders at 515 so you would be roughly 60 minutes late starting unless you bike Friday and stay in a motel or friends and than bike a wee bit from where ever you can. Most buses don't seem to start service till 6 am on Saturdays. My total extra mileage with plan B was 15 miles, 5 miles on BI, 10 miles along Elliot Bay trail, raod to Nickerson ave, fremont bridge, Burke Gilman trail to UW and Lot E-1. I hope this post is helpful. If anything is misleading or wrong let me know and I will clarify. Thanks again Dave and Nancy!

	Subject Canada route/vancouver accomodations??? Date Wed Aug 5 2009 21:27 Author Mandy Noble (mandy@donobi.net)
Anybody out there who has ridden Hilloah's Canada ride? I'm interested in the route taken from the ferry to Vancouver and the motel/hotel where you stayed. If you'd rather phone the number is 779-5922.

	Subject Vulnerable road user bill. Date Sat Aug 29 2009 15:10 Author leo (lspud@comcast.net)
This is one of the biggie bills I'd like to see passed. Some legal protection if you get hit. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=149154880140 A facebook group from a friend of mine.

	Subject SUGOI JERSEY Date Fri Sep 11 2009 17:00 Author TED (teddupee@bigweb.net) File: 2009 SUGOI BACK S65.JPG
THEY ARE HERE,SEE TIM BAKER $65 PICTURE ABOVE

	Subject Cycle Italy Date Wed Nov 4 2009 20:28 Author Gord Litster (gordonlitster@shaw .ca)
I am putting together several tours of the beautiful Abruzzo province of Italy. From the Appenine mountains to the Adriatic Riviera. Depending on tour cost will range from $995 to $1695 including all accomodation and some meals. Contact me at gordonlitster@shaw.ca for full details.

Subject Olympic Discovery Trail’s Adventure Rout Date Wed Dec 2 2009 09:30 Author TED File: ODTAdvAll.htm

My name is Deborah Anastasi Black, and I’m with the Olympic Peninsula Visitor Bureau. I’m contacting you because we would like to share information with West Sound Cycling Club members about the Olympic Discovery Trail’s Adventure Route, and to encourage a ride leader to bring a group of folks out for a fall ride! I’d like to ask your advice about the best way to share this information with your members. While most cyclists are familiar with the Olympic Discovery Trail, which will extend from Port Townsend through Forks and out to La Push and the Pacific upon completion, only a few elite mountain bikers have, as of yet, experienced the outstanding ODT Adventure Route. The Adventure Route is an incredible off-road ride that starts near the Elwha bridge on Highway 112 (near the junction of Highway 112 and Highway 101) and heads west, connecting with the Lyre River railroad grade after 22 miles. From there, it heads south to Lake Crescent. The approximately 25-mile-long route is a mix of very well-built and well-signed singletrack and doubletrack, which is also popular with equestrians and hikers. The trail traverses beautiful forests with views to the south to the Olympics and to the north over the Strait of Juan de Fuca to Vancouver Island. Following are links to a couple of articles that have been published about the Adventure Route. http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20090505/news/305059992 http://www.seattlepi.com/getaways/320398_discovery21.html

	Subject One-Day 2010 STP Training Preps Date Thu Jan 7 2010 17:31 Author Dan Schremser (schremsd@u.washington.edu)
Planning STP training rides starting 17 Feb, for this year's STP. Rides will start in Kingston/Hansville area, one day during week and each weekend, starting with 1 hour ride and working up to several 8 to 10 hour efforts. Interested in riders in the 13 to 15 MPH range (slower, but steady!) If interested in prep rides or actual STP on 17 July, send e-mail to: schremsd@u.washington.edu .

	Subject TIME CRUNCHED CYCLIST TRAINING Date Wed Jan 20 2010 15:07 Author DAN AUSTAD (daustad99@aol.com)
I started Chris Carmichael's 11 week time crunced training plan last week. If anybody else is doing it or would like to do it with me, please let me know. I usually ride Tuesday and Thursday at 8:00am from Silverdale for about 75-90 minutes and ride 2 hours on Saturday and Sunday. I often use the Saturday group ride as a workout.

Subject Poulsbo Trails Committee Date Thu Feb 4 2010 09:03 Author Rick Ransdell (rlrans@earthlink.net)

Poulsbo Trails Commmittee just sent out copies of this report. (links below): They might be useful information for contacting legislators. Bicycling and Walking in the United States: The 2010 Benchmarking Report highlights data on biking and walking levels, safety, funding, policies, and more from 50 states and the 51 largest U.S. cities. States and cities are ranked on a number of indicators including bicycling and walking levels, safety, and funding. The report also highlights the great disparities that exist between bicycling and walking levels, safety, and funding: While 10% of trips in the U.S. are by bike or foot, 13% of traffic fatalities are bicyclists and pedestrians, and biking and walking receive less than 2% of federal transportation dollars. The report also highlights the connection between biking and walking and public health: states with the lowest levels of biking and walking have, on average, the highest rates of obesity, diabetes, and high blood pressure. In contrast states with the highest levels of biking and walking have, on average, the lowest rates of obesity, diabetes, and high blood pressure. The nearly 200-page report is a snap-shot of the state of bicycling and walking in the U.S. and in 50 states and the 51 largest U.S. cities. It contains a number of illustrations which you are welcome to use. Here are some helpful links to access the information: Webpage with more info and to download the report: http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/benchmarking Press Release: http://www.peoplepoweredmovement.org/site/index.php/site/media/investing_in_biking_and_walking_could_save_lives_says_report/ Quick Facts Sheet: http://www.PeoplePoweredMovement.org/site/images/uploads/2010_Benchmarking_Report_Fact_Sheet-FINAL.pdf

	Subject YikeBike Date Sun Mar 28 2010 11:39 Author Craig M.
Interesting concept. YikeBike Yikes

	Subject Mandy, here's the first video Date Tue Apr 6 2010 20:53 Author leo (lspud@comcast.net)
Hope this works ok, http://vimeo.com/9827254

	Subject Even more videos from the League Date Wed Apr 7 2010 11:24 Author leo (lspud@comcast,net)
This is done by a LCI down in California. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKSVwhLMjBk

	Subject Good video of the Instant Turn Date Thu Apr 8 2010 11:17 Author leo (lspud@comcast,net)
The instant turn is a way to turn a bike within 2 feet or less when you don't have space to stop, getting right hooked at a intersection for example. Preston starts by talking about the power position start and turn your bars when stopping. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW74_LqEevc&feature=PlayList&p=9821AC79B17559DE&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=4

Subject NEWBIE.....KINDA Date Sun Apr 25 2010 20:27 Author H.Donaghy (hardlyableson@msn.com)

I live in Port Orchard and years ago I used to ride 200 miles a week, just riding. That was until I was knocked off my bike in Seattle. Due to my income it took years to get back to where I was able to ride again but not like before. I'm 57 yrs old and would like a riding partner for those just-in case situations.I do not race road,down hill or off road.... just ride or commute. Want to get back into touring. anyone interested?

	Subject Bcycle Date Tue May 4 2010 12:11 Author H.F.Donaghy (hardlyableson@msn.com)
Check this out....someone has invented a rent-a bicycle system. The web page is; http://www.bcycle.com/# . while you are on thier page vote to get them intrested then contact friends and local goverment. Let us get more bikes on the road,re introduce people to the pleasures of biking and get more cars off the streets,especially in the city. KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN!!

Subject W.S.F. Date Tue May 11 2010 22:34 Author Howard Donaghy (hardlyableson@msn.com)

I was at a W.S.F meeting last night in Bremerton and was informed that next fiscal meeting that raising bicycle fares are being considered for an incress in price. I do think that we knows what that means; a) how many riders feel safe leaveing thier bikes on the dock for the whole day? 2)Is there or will there be enough parking spots ?(remember that since 9/11 bikes can not leave ANY baggage on thier bikes like tools, cloth ,ect, 3) put a real crimp on rides like the Chilly Hilly, the Peninsula Metric Century as well as those casual personal rides around Vashon or summer touring through the San Juans . W.S.F. is pretty smart to wait till after summer to slide this through, after biking peak season. I mean public transit is eather getting expensive or cut and we ,the public are being encouraged to be more green and healthy.The way I see it for one van they get $13 and change off peak season where in the same space you can get 20 bikes at $1.00 a bike, well you do the math. Representive Kimer made the point that W.S.F. need to reaccess thier bookeeping ( like the boat enginners double overtime), and make changes before asking for more money. Keep your eyes open,access meeting minutes on line, watch for the ferry newpaper on board, get involved!!!

	Subject bike rentals Date Fri Jun 11 2010 17:52 Author Frank Tillery (rhetttro59@yahoo.com)
I plan to be in Bremerton for a week in July and was wondering if anyone new of any bike shops that rent in the Bremerton area. I am a bike commuter in the Dallas/ Ft Worth, Texas area and want to be able to ride daily while I'm there. Thanks in advance for any help. FT

Subject Kingston to Poulsbo Date Thu Jul 22 2010 20:22 Author Mike (stringbreaker@msn.com)

What is the distance from Kingston to Poulsbo and do the roads have good shoulders and how much traffic should we be prepared to encounter on a weekday? I saw a 24 mile loop that one of your members wrote about in the local paper and thought that would be nice to do on our second day in the area. We have never been in your area and don't know what to expect hill and traffic wise. Thank you for any info

	Subject August WSCC Mtg will NOT be at SBH Date Tue Jul 27 2010 23:52 Author Don Czeczok (ezczee@yahoo.com)
August WSCC mtg on 4 AUG will be at Tim & Susan Baker's home on Marine Drive. This is the annual club picnic. Please bring your favorite dish to share. Burgers/Dogs/Salmon & Veggie Burgers will be provided. Hope to C U there. Starts at 6:00

	Subject Ride 4 Us Date Mon Sep 6 2010 22:06 Author Harry Gilger (harrygilger@yahoo.com)
Enter your message here.25 September in Tacoma at Point Defiance Park. 30, 40 or 50KM rides on Vashion Island. Go to 4us.org. Benefits 4US, a charity providing ultrasound equipment to pregnancy centers. Should this be added to the calendar?

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